Nigel also shares how we can make space for listening to the Earth in events such as COPs, to make sure Earth is represented but also to help COP delegates cope with the stress and intensity of these gatherings.

We've taken his advice by the word! Check out the "COP Meeting Opener Card" and 5 moments of mindful connection to the Earth (5 mins each) which we've produced for COP27. All available on this website here.

Copyrights: the artwork on the intro slide is by Hélène Hibou ( and the jingle by Hachim Chahidi.

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